Siheyuan: Originally I just wanted to be a little transparent
Chapter 164: Falling behind at birth
Chapter 164: Falling behind at birth
The more Mr. Lu listened, the brighter his eyes became, and he kept recording on his hand.
The more Mr. Lu listened, the more he felt that Lin Shengli was not what he said he was, an amateur.
From what he has shown now, he is simply an expert among experts!
If he hadn't known about Lin Shengli's relevant information, Mr. Lu would have thought that the person he was talking to now was an old expert who has been involved in the aircraft design and manufacturing industry for decades.
General Engineer Lu discovered that many of Lin Shengli’s ideas coincided with his design ideas, but he also had many ideas and ideas that were more advanced and forward-looking!
If he hadn't known about Lin Shengli's past and the strict identity check that allowed him to come here to repair equipment, Mr. Lu would have thought that their project had been leaked!
Precisely because he knew Lin Shengli's past, Mr. Lu had to sigh, "These people are truly geniuses. They are simply the kind of people who are born with knowledge!"
After Lin Shengli finished what he said, he thought for a while and said: "Although the aircraft I envisioned will be sufficient for the time being in recent years, it is still not enough!"
Mr. Lu asked doubtfully, "What's not enough?"
"The aircraft I envisioned was inspired by a certain type 19 aircraft from the Bear Country."
"I saw from the information in the National Library that this type of aircraft, the 19G, was designed and produced at least fourteen or five years ago!"
General Engineer Lu confirmed Lin Shengli’s statement, but also asked in confusion:
"Yes, Mao Xiong's 19-type aircraft was developed in 51. It first flew in September 52 and was equipped with troops in early 9. It has indeed been fourteen or five years now, but what's the point of this? Problem?"
Lin Shengli thought for a moment and said: "There is indeed a problem. The aircraft I envisioned was originally based on an old model from more than ten years ago. In terms of performance, it is not compared with those advanced fighters from developed Western countries. I’m afraid Bimao Xiong’s current fighter planes can’t compare.”
"Assume that the aircraft I envisioned can be produced, and then small batches of equipment can be started for the troops, but the fastest is probably one or two years later!"
"What I am imitating is someone else's old technology from more than ten years ago. The production of this is backward!"
"Moreover, after so many years, the Western developed countries and Mao Xiong and others should have never been idle, and they have continued to research more advanced fighters."
"And by the time our fighter planes are produced, new fighters using new technologies will probably be flying all over the sky."
"Then this technological generation gap means that we are at least one or two generations behind others."
"If you fall behind this step, you will fall behind step by step. From now on, let alone catching up with others, it will be basically impossible to catch up with them!"
"Thinking about it this way, my assumptions are indeed a bit ridiculous. It seems that I, an outsider in the aviation field, should just work on my machinery honestly!"
What Lin Shengli said are all the detours that flower growers have taken in the development of the aviation industry. The reason why our flower growers are left behind by other countries is not only due to technical problems, but there is another important reason. This is our development idea.
This phenomenon is very intuitively reflected in the development process of flower growers' fighters.
In fact, it is not too late for the flower growers to develop fighter aircraft. As early as the founding of the People's Republic of China, the flower growers introduced a batch of MiG-17s and MiG-19s from Mao Xiong. At that time, the flower growers' air force was It started from these family backgrounds.Relying on the imitation of the Mao Xiong MiG-17, in 55-56, in just one year, the Flower Planters successfully developed and manufactured the Flower Planters' first subsonic jet fighter, code-named "Mural". The prototype of the J-5 fighter jet made its first successful test flight in 56 and participated in the National Day Ceremony in 56.
At the same time, the J-5 basic model was improved and the J-5 A night fighter was designed and manufactured. As a night fighter, it has enhanced night combat capabilities. A fishmouth-shaped radome is installed on the front of the nose, and the engine is changed to a vortex type. The J-5B type has a 37mm aerial cannon and two 23mm aerial cannons. It can also carry various types of aerial bombs. This aircraft was developed in 54 and successfully made its first flight in 56.
Then, imitating the MiG-19, the basic model of the J-6 was produced, also known as the J-6 C model, code-named "Farmer". This model was developed in 58, put into production in 60, and started in 64. Entered the Air Force.
Later, the J-6B was derived, also known as the Dongfeng-105 fighter. This fighter was developed in 59 and entered the test flight stage in 63. However, the B-type did not have an aerial cannon and could only carry the "Thunderbolt" series of air-to-air missiles. missile.
Judging from the technological level at that time, the MiG-17, MiG-19, and the overall technological level were the most advanced in the world, not far behind the technological level of Yingjiang.
The fighter jets produced by flower growers that imitated these two models were not far behind at the time.
However, this situation did not last long. In the 60s, with the continuous development of electronic information technology and aviation technology, the technological generation gap began to slowly appear.
Especially in the 70s, Yingjiang's aviation industry was unparalleled and was among the absolute leaders in the world.
Mao Xiong, who could still compete with Yingjiang at that time, although its overall national strength was not weaker than Yingjiang, there was still a certain gap with Yingjiang in the field of aviation industry, and it could barely catch up with Yingjiang.
As for the flower growers, due to some special historical reasons and a very unoptimistic international environment, the aviation industry of the flower growers began to develop very slowly.
Although from the mid-60s to the late 70s, florists also successively developed and produced fighter jets such as the J-6, J-7, and J-8.
But one is an imitation of the MiG-19, and the other two are imitations of the MiG-21.
Whether it is the MiG-19 or the MiG-21, one is a quasi-second-generation aircraft and the other is a second-generation aircraft. They are both products designed and produced in the 50s.
By the time we produced fighter jets that imitated these two models in the 70s and began to serve, Yingjiang and other Western developed countries and Mao Xiong had already begun to play third-generation or fourth-generation aircraft.
This is inappropriate, you will be left behind at birth!
It can be said that since the 60s, the technical level and design concepts of the Chinese aviation industry have lagged behind the West by as much as 30 to [-] years.
Lin Shengli's last words made Mr. Lu thoughtful.
Mr. Lu thought for a while, picked up some things to say and said:
"Compared to Western developed countries such as Yingjiang, our aviation industry started relatively late, and its foundation is relatively weak. Now it is not easy to take the path of imitation and design and manufacture our own fighter jets. Got it!"
"But what you said, Mr. Lin, makes sense. So, what should we do to prevent this kind of technical generation gap from happening?"
(End of this chapter)
The more Mr. Lu listened, the brighter his eyes became, and he kept recording on his hand.
The more Mr. Lu listened, the more he felt that Lin Shengli was not what he said he was, an amateur.
From what he has shown now, he is simply an expert among experts!
If he hadn't known about Lin Shengli's relevant information, Mr. Lu would have thought that the person he was talking to now was an old expert who has been involved in the aircraft design and manufacturing industry for decades.
General Engineer Lu discovered that many of Lin Shengli’s ideas coincided with his design ideas, but he also had many ideas and ideas that were more advanced and forward-looking!
If he hadn't known about Lin Shengli's past and the strict identity check that allowed him to come here to repair equipment, Mr. Lu would have thought that their project had been leaked!
Precisely because he knew Lin Shengli's past, Mr. Lu had to sigh, "These people are truly geniuses. They are simply the kind of people who are born with knowledge!"
After Lin Shengli finished what he said, he thought for a while and said: "Although the aircraft I envisioned will be sufficient for the time being in recent years, it is still not enough!"
Mr. Lu asked doubtfully, "What's not enough?"
"The aircraft I envisioned was inspired by a certain type 19 aircraft from the Bear Country."
"I saw from the information in the National Library that this type of aircraft, the 19G, was designed and produced at least fourteen or five years ago!"
General Engineer Lu confirmed Lin Shengli’s statement, but also asked in confusion:
"Yes, Mao Xiong's 19-type aircraft was developed in 51. It first flew in September 52 and was equipped with troops in early 9. It has indeed been fourteen or five years now, but what's the point of this? Problem?"
Lin Shengli thought for a moment and said: "There is indeed a problem. The aircraft I envisioned was originally based on an old model from more than ten years ago. In terms of performance, it is not compared with those advanced fighters from developed Western countries. I’m afraid Bimao Xiong’s current fighter planes can’t compare.”
"Assume that the aircraft I envisioned can be produced, and then small batches of equipment can be started for the troops, but the fastest is probably one or two years later!"
"What I am imitating is someone else's old technology from more than ten years ago. The production of this is backward!"
"Moreover, after so many years, the Western developed countries and Mao Xiong and others should have never been idle, and they have continued to research more advanced fighters."
"And by the time our fighter planes are produced, new fighters using new technologies will probably be flying all over the sky."
"Then this technological generation gap means that we are at least one or two generations behind others."
"If you fall behind this step, you will fall behind step by step. From now on, let alone catching up with others, it will be basically impossible to catch up with them!"
"Thinking about it this way, my assumptions are indeed a bit ridiculous. It seems that I, an outsider in the aviation field, should just work on my machinery honestly!"
What Lin Shengli said are all the detours that flower growers have taken in the development of the aviation industry. The reason why our flower growers are left behind by other countries is not only due to technical problems, but there is another important reason. This is our development idea.
This phenomenon is very intuitively reflected in the development process of flower growers' fighters.
In fact, it is not too late for the flower growers to develop fighter aircraft. As early as the founding of the People's Republic of China, the flower growers introduced a batch of MiG-17s and MiG-19s from Mao Xiong. At that time, the flower growers' air force was It started from these family backgrounds.Relying on the imitation of the Mao Xiong MiG-17, in 55-56, in just one year, the Flower Planters successfully developed and manufactured the Flower Planters' first subsonic jet fighter, code-named "Mural". The prototype of the J-5 fighter jet made its first successful test flight in 56 and participated in the National Day Ceremony in 56.
At the same time, the J-5 basic model was improved and the J-5 A night fighter was designed and manufactured. As a night fighter, it has enhanced night combat capabilities. A fishmouth-shaped radome is installed on the front of the nose, and the engine is changed to a vortex type. The J-5B type has a 37mm aerial cannon and two 23mm aerial cannons. It can also carry various types of aerial bombs. This aircraft was developed in 54 and successfully made its first flight in 56.
Then, imitating the MiG-19, the basic model of the J-6 was produced, also known as the J-6 C model, code-named "Farmer". This model was developed in 58, put into production in 60, and started in 64. Entered the Air Force.
Later, the J-6B was derived, also known as the Dongfeng-105 fighter. This fighter was developed in 59 and entered the test flight stage in 63. However, the B-type did not have an aerial cannon and could only carry the "Thunderbolt" series of air-to-air missiles. missile.
Judging from the technological level at that time, the MiG-17, MiG-19, and the overall technological level were the most advanced in the world, not far behind the technological level of Yingjiang.
The fighter jets produced by flower growers that imitated these two models were not far behind at the time.
However, this situation did not last long. In the 60s, with the continuous development of electronic information technology and aviation technology, the technological generation gap began to slowly appear.
Especially in the 70s, Yingjiang's aviation industry was unparalleled and was among the absolute leaders in the world.
Mao Xiong, who could still compete with Yingjiang at that time, although its overall national strength was not weaker than Yingjiang, there was still a certain gap with Yingjiang in the field of aviation industry, and it could barely catch up with Yingjiang.
As for the flower growers, due to some special historical reasons and a very unoptimistic international environment, the aviation industry of the flower growers began to develop very slowly.
Although from the mid-60s to the late 70s, florists also successively developed and produced fighter jets such as the J-6, J-7, and J-8.
But one is an imitation of the MiG-19, and the other two are imitations of the MiG-21.
Whether it is the MiG-19 or the MiG-21, one is a quasi-second-generation aircraft and the other is a second-generation aircraft. They are both products designed and produced in the 50s.
By the time we produced fighter jets that imitated these two models in the 70s and began to serve, Yingjiang and other Western developed countries and Mao Xiong had already begun to play third-generation or fourth-generation aircraft.
This is inappropriate, you will be left behind at birth!
It can be said that since the 60s, the technical level and design concepts of the Chinese aviation industry have lagged behind the West by as much as 30 to [-] years.
Lin Shengli's last words made Mr. Lu thoughtful.
Mr. Lu thought for a while, picked up some things to say and said:
"Compared to Western developed countries such as Yingjiang, our aviation industry started relatively late, and its foundation is relatively weak. Now it is not easy to take the path of imitation and design and manufacture our own fighter jets. Got it!"
"But what you said, Mr. Lin, makes sense. So, what should we do to prevent this kind of technical generation gap from happening?"
(End of this chapter)
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